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steven lightfoot's avatar

This is very troubling.

Are you saying that these books were destroyed? "Caillou, Franklin the Turtle, Scooby-Doo, Geronimo Stilton, Magic Schoolbus, Magic Treehouse, and Clifford the Red Dog.'

What is wrong with these books? My own kids read them currently.

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N.M.'s avatar

Glad to hear that your kids are reading these books.

Keep them! If you find any of these books in thrift stores, garage sales, etc., buy them, store them , save them. They are treasures and must be protected. We are living in dark times.

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steven lightfoot's avatar

Yes, it seems we are. I just cant believe libraries are getting rid of those books. What is wrong with them? Serious question. Do you know?

My wife is a teacher, and thus has collected lots of books over the years, and our pre teen kids read them, so they get exposure to the modern 'classics'.

I am professional engineer, so the Magic School bus I find really great for kids, to start getting them interested in science.

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N.M.'s avatar

I do not know what is wrong with these books, but that might just be the answer! There is nothing wrong with them, so they are wrong!

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steven lightfoot's avatar

Yes, it could be that they are non-ideological simple books, without political messaging. And that now is verboten.

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James Bouryiotis's avatar

There's a problem with well-meaningness, since it ends up being more about the person needing to feel good and fit in with the good crowd, and so the actions taken are no longer evaluated as to whether they are actually good - because they are being done by GOOD people, with GOOD intentions.

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Jim McMurtry's avatar

Reading books is among the most edifying activities in childhood, if not the most. Then one reads here: “The banning and later rewording of "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory," challenging the "Little House on the Prairie" book, the accusation that “Dr. Seuss's” books are hurtful, and the attack on “Tintin” books are just a few examples.” Examples of educational leadership that ought to be challenged.

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KEMOSABE's avatar

The problem is that educational leadership is already intellectually challenged.

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Alexander Simonelis's avatar

Those Toronto school boards are vile. NDP captured.

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Alexander Simonelis's avatar

Worse in some places. Twitter is full of Ont horrors. Fewer in Quebec. I imagine BC is bad with the NDP strong there.

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KEMOSABE's avatar

A very disturbing but enlightening article which should be forwarded to the National Post or Toronto Star. Book censorship in Canada is highly controversial, depending on what side of the fence you sit. Our Supreme Court has already ruled that a B.C. school board was wrong to ban same sex books in its schools. Perhaps this particular school board sees this decision as a green light to ban everything but same sex books including poor Clifford the Red Dog. So, are we headed down the path where we say goodbye to Franklin the Turtle and Scooby-Doo and welcome such literary masterpieces as, "All Boys Aren't Blue, Asha's Mums or Belinda's Bouget ???? In the dystopian times in which we live, where Perversity is considered Diversity, it is entirely possible.

"When a society is stressed, when it comes up against things that are hard to understand, you get a lot of delusional thinking". - James Howard Kunstler

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Joan's avatar

Here's one for your collection, Kemosabe -- I think it pertains here:

“We all want progress. But progress means getting nearer to the place where you want to be. And if you have taken a wrong turning then to go forward does not get you any nearer. If you are on the wrong road progress means doing an about-turn and walking back to the right road and in that case the man who turns back soonest is the most progressive man.” -- C.S. Lewis

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Caroline's avatar

This makes me so sad. The wanton destruction of books for ideological reasons is bad enough, but asking children, especially those who volunteered to help with a book-related task because they love books, to do it is downright evil. The books mentioned are all classics, favourites of my own children and children the world over. And as for destroying a Bible-related book, the fact that this happened in a Catholic school is all the more disturbing.

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Ned Milburn's avatar

Excellent article!!

The Woke Left talk a good talk about inclusiveness and freedom of expression, but they themselves propel censorship and lack of acceptance.

Sad and scary times! Fair mined thinkers (ie: not extreme right nor extreme left) tend to be the quietest, but we the Fair-minded must speak Truth and Light into the Darkness and Evil of censorship.

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peter john wraight's avatar

Looks like it is time for all schools to have a national Book burning day but on second thought it might work better at night. This is just an idea but we could design nice cute uniforms for the children to wear but add an emblem which would serve to identify them as lets say an elite group. I also think a march after the fire would be nice through the streets when the children could express their displeasure at those that do not agree, perhaps breaking the glass at those offenders places of worship might work and well why not set fire to some of them anyway.

Gee wasnt that tried before back in the 1930,s?

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KEMOSABE's avatar

Expanding on your thought, why not give them an exotic name like, "Bund Kanadischer Staat Arbeiterjugend ("Hitler Youth, League of Canada (German) Worker Youth"

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Unskool's avatar

Parents have definitely reneged on their responsibilities. It's actually just weird to realize that most of the West decided it wouldn't be a problem if they sent their kids to be educated (or indoctrinated) by the state 5 days per week.

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N.M.'s avatar

Below is a comment form another anonymous teacher, paraphrased slightly to protect identity:

"And I guess that is reason we were explicitly instructed not to allow students to help in the destruction of our library books."

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Elisabeth MacKinnon's avatar

The bibliocommons link was interesting because it explained the circumstance of whether the book was withdrwn or not and why. The vharges also came from a variety of political backgrounds right left political religious. In that sense the system was work8ng. But why are these books at the cath9lic school being withdrawn snd who is adjudicating?

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Elisabeth MacKinnon's avatar

As a retired teacher librarian at TDSB I am aware of course. But the article is a lot closer to home and a lot more specific than some school somewhere banned the 3 little pigs. I really would like to know what school weeded those psrticular books and why and have a conversation with the school or thr board about it.

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Elton Robinson's avatar

Thank you for the insight

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Elisabeth MacKinnon's avatar

Pllease identify the school. Without this info the story sounds like nonsense.

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Elisabeth MacKinnon's avatar

I believe you but others won't. We need names of schools.

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Elisabeth MacKinnon's avatar

Without any real world documentation it's just hot air. All good writing provides at least one receipt.

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