don't worry, it will come from the $350 trillion mountain of money that is purported to be sitting there that belongs to the bands. they just 'want it back'. We all know that mountain of money doesn't exist, but that fiction sure does have legs.
I am all for reparations. The extra spending on indigenous since 2015 has seriously impaired Canada’s finances. Our armed forces are a joke, our provincial health care systems are crumbling, and our national debt imperils the future of our children and grandchildren. Those tens of billions of wasted dollars spent on ephemeral indigenous claims has been crippling. So, yes, let’s figure out how much the AFN owes every Canadian taxpayer, and let’s get those reparations going.
Two words that immediately come to mind are, "vomitus" and "ingratiating". It should come as no surprise that Canadians are regarded as the "enemy" and Kimberly Murray is carrying on the ancient warrior tradition of "counting coup" against her perceived enemy in order to win prestige and in this case, money as well. But lets be honest, she and her cohorts are not the real enemy of Canada. The real enemy is from within, those brainless, clueless morons who also seek prestige, not in the warrior tradition but in the woke tradition by appearing to be the icons of political correctness to impress their equally intellectually impaired colleagues. Kimberley Murray's very existence in government circles attests to this fallacy. Thanks again Nina for a mind numbing essay.
"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself."
A commenter below the APTN interview on YouTube offers this marvelous tongue-in-cheek appraisal of Kimberly Murray:
<< I like her because she gets what the score is and doesn't get distracted. When you've got your story set, you're done and that's the end of it. If you get derailed just because actual real information is completely at odds with your narrative, then you're out of the game. If you can't operate this way you'll always lose to these people. Hustling a narrative most effectively has to be a single minded, incurious labor of repetition and non-engagement. There is no debate. LEARN >>
Janice, there are some good Kimberly Murray quotes in the Canadian Lawyer Magazine article that Nina links to. I extracted a few that I thought you'd enjoy:
<< She studied at Carleton and Western universities before taking her law degree at Osgoode Hall Law School, where she admits she often played Scrabble in the hallways rather than attending large, boring lectures. >>
<< “I found in law school there were not a lot of courses that interested me — I wasn’t interested in business and that kind of stuff,” she says. >>
<< Murray returned to Osgoode after graduation to work on a master’s in constitutional law. She completed the coursework, but went on maternity leave before writing her thesis. “I just never finished it,” she says. “I did all the courses and I never finished the thesis. Maybe when my kids go off to university. Maybe when my dog grows up and I have more time to myself.” >>
If your father is Mohawk and your mother is Irish, why is it that you are a Mohawk lawyer? Why not an Irish lawyer? I was hoping the Canadian Lawyer article might shed some light on whether Murray was raised in an indigenous community or reserve, but it didn't offer any hints.
This is another valuable deep dive by Nina Green. I’m going to challenge one assertion, though, just to be difficult.
Nina states, “Kimberly Murray failed in her primary mission - i.e., to produce the name of at least one verifiably-missing child.”
Murray’s mandate (linked in the article) doesn't say that she's expected to find, identify or name any missing children. The verbs used in the mandate are mostly the usual blousy abstractions. Murray is required to: engage; consider; support (the implementation of …); examine; facilitate; develop (a description of the current legal framework), etc.
The word “name” (even as a noun) doesn’t appear anywhere in the mandate, and “identify” occurs only in the following contexts: identify gaps and inconsistencies; identify needed measures; identify areas of improvement; identify, protect, and preserve unmarked burial sites … In fact, the word “missing” doesn’t even appear in the mandate, except in reference to Murray’s title and the title of a proposed committee!
The only true action verb in the mandate is “report,” and we know that we’re going to have three very expensive and condemnatory reports by the time we’re through with Kimberly Murray.
Me again. I just watched that Dec. 2022 APTN interview with Kimberly Murray, and Dennis Ward’s final question was “What would you like to see happen to feel like your role, this role, was a success?” And Murray answers:
<< Well, I would like to see the burial grounds protected. Just like all the community members that I speak to and survivors, I would like to find those answers TO THOSE FOUR QUESTIONS: who died and how they died and where they’re buried and, you know, the questions that the TRC had asked. If we could answer those then we’ll have done what we were meant to do.” >>
(That’s actually only three questions, but whatever.) So Nina was right: Murray, at least in the early going, felt that "success" would include finding out who died, and how they died. I guess when that started to look kind of iffy, she had to redefine her project along the lines of her rather fuzzy mandate.
Another very minor point: Although Nina feels that non-school institutions (hospitals, facilities for juvenile delinquents, etc.) are strictly outside of Murray’s mandate, I notice that mandate #8 does include “consideration of Indigenous children who were buried on sites other than those at and associated with former residential school lands, and of those whose remains cannot be found.”
Get ready! Kimberly Murray (the Indigenous woman with an Irish mother) wants billions more in reparations under a framework which is Indigenous-led.
600 bands will tell us how much to pay them.
Total amount so far is in the trillions.
don't worry, it will come from the $350 trillion mountain of money that is purported to be sitting there that belongs to the bands. they just 'want it back'. We all know that mountain of money doesn't exist, but that fiction sure does have legs.
Please Sir, more soup !!!
I am all for reparations. The extra spending on indigenous since 2015 has seriously impaired Canada’s finances. Our armed forces are a joke, our provincial health care systems are crumbling, and our national debt imperils the future of our children and grandchildren. Those tens of billions of wasted dollars spent on ephemeral indigenous claims has been crippling. So, yes, let’s figure out how much the AFN owes every Canadian taxpayer, and let’s get those reparations going.
Two words that immediately come to mind are, "vomitus" and "ingratiating". It should come as no surprise that Canadians are regarded as the "enemy" and Kimberly Murray is carrying on the ancient warrior tradition of "counting coup" against her perceived enemy in order to win prestige and in this case, money as well. But lets be honest, she and her cohorts are not the real enemy of Canada. The real enemy is from within, those brainless, clueless morons who also seek prestige, not in the warrior tradition but in the woke tradition by appearing to be the icons of political correctness to impress their equally intellectually impaired colleagues. Kimberley Murray's very existence in government circles attests to this fallacy. Thanks again Nina for a mind numbing essay.
"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself."
Marcus Tullius Cicero
A commenter below the APTN interview on YouTube offers this marvelous tongue-in-cheek appraisal of Kimberly Murray:
<< I like her because she gets what the score is and doesn't get distracted. When you've got your story set, you're done and that's the end of it. If you get derailed just because actual real information is completely at odds with your narrative, then you're out of the game. If you can't operate this way you'll always lose to these people. Hustling a narrative most effectively has to be a single minded, incurious labor of repetition and non-engagement. There is no debate. LEARN >>
You nailed it, @gentilegrief.
I guess a lack of quality scholarship and analysis is not a barrier to employment at Queens: https://law.queensu.ca/news/Influential-Indigenous-scholar-and-advocate-joins-faculty
Janice, there are some good Kimberly Murray quotes in the Canadian Lawyer Magazine article that Nina links to. I extracted a few that I thought you'd enjoy:
<< She studied at Carleton and Western universities before taking her law degree at Osgoode Hall Law School, where she admits she often played Scrabble in the hallways rather than attending large, boring lectures. >>
<< “I found in law school there were not a lot of courses that interested me — I wasn’t interested in business and that kind of stuff,” she says. >>
<< Murray returned to Osgoode after graduation to work on a master’s in constitutional law. She completed the coursework, but went on maternity leave before writing her thesis. “I just never finished it,” she says. “I did all the courses and I never finished the thesis. Maybe when my kids go off to university. Maybe when my dog grows up and I have more time to myself.” >>
Good grief.
Indigenous scholar! She has blue eyes and blond hair.
If your father is Mohawk and your mother is Irish, why is it that you are a Mohawk lawyer? Why not an Irish lawyer? I was hoping the Canadian Lawyer article might shed some light on whether Murray was raised in an indigenous community or reserve, but it didn't offer any hints.
Reparations are owed to Canadian taxpayers.
What a scam.
Trudeau is millimeters away from imploding.
Govt. Holds Brutal Human Sacrifice in Honor of Indigenous Peoples' Day https://thefarcefeed.substack.com/p/govt-holds-brutal-human-sacrifice
...scary when it's hard to tell what's real or farce these days.......
This is another valuable deep dive by Nina Green. I’m going to challenge one assertion, though, just to be difficult.
Nina states, “Kimberly Murray failed in her primary mission - i.e., to produce the name of at least one verifiably-missing child.”
Murray’s mandate (linked in the article) doesn't say that she's expected to find, identify or name any missing children. The verbs used in the mandate are mostly the usual blousy abstractions. Murray is required to: engage; consider; support (the implementation of …); examine; facilitate; develop (a description of the current legal framework), etc.
The word “name” (even as a noun) doesn’t appear anywhere in the mandate, and “identify” occurs only in the following contexts: identify gaps and inconsistencies; identify needed measures; identify areas of improvement; identify, protect, and preserve unmarked burial sites … In fact, the word “missing” doesn’t even appear in the mandate, except in reference to Murray’s title and the title of a proposed committee!
The only true action verb in the mandate is “report,” and we know that we’re going to have three very expensive and condemnatory reports by the time we’re through with Kimberly Murray.
Me again. I just watched that Dec. 2022 APTN interview with Kimberly Murray, and Dennis Ward’s final question was “What would you like to see happen to feel like your role, this role, was a success?” And Murray answers:
<< Well, I would like to see the burial grounds protected. Just like all the community members that I speak to and survivors, I would like to find those answers TO THOSE FOUR QUESTIONS: who died and how they died and where they’re buried and, you know, the questions that the TRC had asked. If we could answer those then we’ll have done what we were meant to do.” >>
(That’s actually only three questions, but whatever.) So Nina was right: Murray, at least in the early going, felt that "success" would include finding out who died, and how they died. I guess when that started to look kind of iffy, she had to redefine her project along the lines of her rather fuzzy mandate.
Another very minor point: Although Nina feels that non-school institutions (hospitals, facilities for juvenile delinquents, etc.) are strictly outside of Murray’s mandate, I notice that mandate #8 does include “consideration of Indigenous children who were buried on sites other than those at and associated with former residential school lands, and of those whose remains cannot be found.”