Watch the, "National Advisory Committee on Residential Schools Missing Children and Unmarked Graves" webinar on You Tube called, "Best Practises and Red Flags".
About 7 minutes into the video you will hear the sad tale told by Jacquie Bouvier, a Committee member, a member of the Survivors Circle and 3rd gen. IRS Survivor. Jacquie was born in 1952 and is now in her '70's. She attended Beauval and alleges she was abused there-No details of her abuse or abusers given in the video. Her Step Father apparently worked at the school at some point. Her Mother had also attended Beauval and was married previously in an arranged marriage by the school. When she was 90, Jacquie's Mum said she wanted a family ring with all 9 of her kid's birthstones on it. This is where its gets interesting.
Apparently the ring was to also have the stones of 2 infant girls from her 1st marriage, Jacquie's step sisters, whom Jacquie never knew had existed. One died at age 6 months in 1929 and the other at 9 Months Old in 1931. Note: neither of these infants were students! Her Mother took Jacquie to the COMMUNITY cemetary near the Beauval School. Indicating to an unmarked area of the cemetary she said, " I THINK this is where the girls are buried". So, an apparently bereaved Mother of 2 baby girls didn't know where they were buried? Never kept their graves marked or tended them? Seems odd doesn't it?
After Kamloops May 27, 2021 announcement, Jacquie came forward to join the Survivors Circle. Then she approached the Advisory Committee who helped her obtaìn the death certificates for her , "2 baby sisters". Yes, records of them exist! (No cause of death is mentioned in the video).
But now a GPR search of the Beauval cemetary was initiated and Jacquie waited to hear if they found her "missing baby sisters". You can find that video on the net too. Lo and behold, the searchers announced they found 93 unmarked graves! In a graveyard of all places! 79 children and 14 infants were "found"! (Undoubtedly these included Jacquie's non student step sisters).
Oh the trauma and sorrow and the anger towards the govt and church for the loss of these "missing" kids. No one in that video mentions that GPR cannot reliably detect graves, let alone indicate the ages of children. No one mentions the possible causes of deaths, it's left to one's imagination, hence the sorrow, trauma and anger. Even Kisha Supernant in the Advisory Committee video states exhumation is necessary and a full forensic examination is needed if the COMMUNITY wishes to proceed that far. Another presenter Emily Holland states about 1 hour into that video that, "Even if you exhume a GPR "hit" and find nothing, ITS NOT OVER! We have the oral testimonies of survivors as the Truth", suggesting searches should continue despite no evidence being found.
How many of these now unmarked graves are actually graves? How many contain children or infants remains? How many are non students, natives or non natives alike-its a COMMUNITY cemetary after all? How many are actually "missing" and were they murdered or did they die of natural causes ( as I assume Jacquie's sisters had died)? Why are taxpayers being forced to pay to find graves that may not belong to a native or a res school student, something which should be a family responsibility?
One more thing from the video-Emily Holland states, "if community searchers find bones that are older than say 500 years old and couldn't possibly be IRS students, don't tell anyone or leak it to the media. It will only increase "denialism". I guess that would be worse than finding nothing after excavating a GPR hit, but hey, they would still have their "Truth".
Thanks for this, Bill. I watched a similar video from an earlier NAC gathering that included Jacquie Bouvier’s story. You provide some interesting details that I didn’t have, so I thought you might like to see my own notes on this woman’s 2023 testimony, wherein I comment on the level of emotionalism, and how Jacquie attributes those infant deaths – and even her own present-day need for joint replacements! – to the residential school. In my notes I gave her a pseudonym in case I decided to share the story (though I haven’t until today). My summary is longish, as her talk ran about 15 minutes, but gives some additional context that may be of interest to some readers; apologies for the repetitive parts. Note that at the time of this telling, Jacquie obviously didn't yet have the death certificates for her "baby sisters" and reports them as dying at 8 months and 11 months of age, which must have been from her mother's (inaccurate) recollection. From my unedited notes:
<< A woman in her 70s (I’ll call her Jane) told her story, and her mother’s, as part of a survivors’ panel at one of Kimberly Murray’s National Gatherings in 2023. Jane starts by saying that her Dene mother went to Beauval Residential School right through grade nine and, because she was an orphan, “never went home.” After grade nine she had stayed on at Beauval as a seamstress, and the school arranged her marriage to a Metis man. One of this woman’s infant daughters died at 8 months, and another at 11 months (though a son in between those two lived to adulthood), and they’re buried in the school cemetery. Jane refers to her mother’s two infant daughters as “my baby sisters” and believes they died because her mother hadn’t had good enough nutrition while living at the school [this might well have been the case wherever she was raised, because this was in the 1930s].
Jane weeps and struggles to compose herself when speaking of those “baby sisters,” even though they had died two decades before Jane herself was born. Perhaps she was channeling her mother’s grief, but the level of emotionalism (and the standing ovation Jane got from the audience for telling her sad story) definitely seemed overblown given that she was speaking about two infants who died nearly a century ago from illness or a failure to thrive.
The infants’ Metis father (Desrocher) “died at a young age, of TB.” After his death, Jane’s mother had four more children while unmarried, before marrying Jane’s father Isadore Bouvier, who worked for Beauval Residential School. Jane’s father died when she was a girl. One older sister was taken to an orphanage (because Jane’s mother wasn’t married at that point and couldn’t care for her) and an older brother was scooped and ended up in the US. Jane only managed to find and meet him in the early 2000s, after her mom had died in 1999 [note that despite her hard life and many tragedies, Jane’s mom lived to the age of 92]. One brother was deaf and went to a school for the deaf. He worked all his life and committed suicide after retirement when in his 70s. Jane believes his suicide was due to the trauma he suffered in the school for the deaf.
Jane says she herself “was a very angry woman” and “went into” alcoholism because of abuse she suffered in her own 6 years in Beauval. “LIKE EVERYONE ELSE,” she says, she “was abused physically, mentally, emotionally, and spiritually.” She gives no specifics whatsoever, allowing the listener to imagine the worst. Jane wasn’t able to have children, but she adopted her teenage niece’s baby, so now has a 42-year-old son and the two appear to be very close (judging by Facebook posts and photos). She lives in a condo in a Vancouver high-rise, travels frequently for pleasure and activism, and sports fashionable clothes and brightly dyed coiffures.
Jane is 72 and has had two hip replacements. She’s been told she also needs knee replacements, but says she doesn’t plan to get her knees done. This (the need for joint replacements) was caused by the physical abuse at the residential school, Jane says. >>
Nina says, “Forester's article also omits important information about Annett's own notorious 2011 GPR search …”
Brett Forester isn’t the only one who has omitted mention of Annett’s meddling at the Mohawk Institute. Kimberly Murray herself has been conspicuously silent on anything to do with Kevin Annett, even though as Nina points out, Murray and others in the TRC were clearly influenced by the background noise he’d created. In fact, CBC as a NETWORK has barely mentioned Annett’s name in the two+ decades he’s been causing mischief. Why? Because his obvious lunacy would taint the credibility of the orthodox IRS narrative.
What does it say that in the four volumes of her final report – nearly 2000 pages – Kimberly Murray doesn’t even MENTION Kevin Annett or reference his 2011 ‘work’ at the Mohawk Institute? Of course she’d never want to be associated with him, a crackpot repudiated by the Mohawks and every other First Nation in the country. And OF COURSE she’d never want to acknowledge the influence he’s had on people’s perceptions of residential schools.
But he IS a part of the story of the ostensibly ‘disappeared’ children, and it’s plainly dishonest for Murray and her collaborators to have left him completely out of the picture. In a $10-million-dollar “study” he SHOULD have been mentioned, and his theories and actions unequivocally denounced.
It's not hard to see why Kimberly Murray wouldn’t want to pronounce on the rantings of Kevin Annett, pro OR con. To her mind, it’s safest just to “disappear” Annett from the public consciousness. He makes her and her collaborators look like they, too, could be lying in service of an agenda.
Kevin Annett has become the poster boy for the biggest fraud in Canada to date. Regrettably, the worst has yet to come. As Trudeau shuffles his cabinet rumor has it that Kevin Annett will be asked to replace MP Gary Anandasangaree as the next Minister of Crown Indigenous Relations. When asked to comment, Trudeau replied, "he is the most knowledgeable individual in Canada regarding the tragic indigenous genocide and besides, his name is much easier to pronounce than, buddy what's name".
Are these the shadows of things that *will* be, or are they the shadows of things that *may* be only? Scrooge, A Christmas Carol.
Given Forester's X profile, it's no wonder he's seized on Annett's conspiracy theories. It's unlikely there would ever be a balanced reporting from Forester. Sadly, the largely unsuspecting and naive public, trusting as it does in the CBC (and even more reason for it to be defunded when it's perpetrating these lies), will believe this.
It is a crime of the occult to wage this. Like the drag last supper at the Olympics. Like transgender day of... on Easter. If you research crimes of the occult, they need to go after Christianity. Christians sit in defiance of ALL the anti-population RIGHTS they need so badly. So we are a target for steady strength.
Euthanasia. Nope we don't like that. The unemployed vets when no meat goes through have a job continuity. (No meat.. no large animal vets, nothing to feed cats..no small animal vets)
Sterilization, removing healthy body parts to Eliminate sexual function. Very horrific if done by guy in van in seventies. Normal if sent off for this by teacher in pink hair claiming the syrup word affirming.
Abortion. Taking from the sacred. If humans can sell the human organs of the human dismembered alive, to other humans for profit, then hint....it's human and barbaric.
All these Christians oppose. 112 churches burn.
It is useful to create hate against Christians.
Useful too to dismantle the state to impose global government.
So many layers to how perfect this libel is. But the government, yes the government HAS systematically harmed first nations. The reserves, the two status, the two standards. The division. Well now we are back at luciferians. Division is their favorite play to obtain and increase power. They want us each to resent the other.
The link between Annett's conspiracy theories and Kimberly Murray's report and statements are made clear in this article. It seems correct that her conclusions were influenced by his writings. Thanks for publishing this.
“Bone by bone, two archaeologists lifted the 130-year-old skeletal remains of a Native American girl from the shallow grave in a roadside cemetery. A hand bone, a rib, a chunk of vertebrae and, finally, her skull.
Almeda Heavy Hair had been forcibly removed from her family and the Gros Ventre tribe when she was 12 and sent to the Carlisle Indian Industrial School in Pennsylvania, one of hundreds of institutions operated by the U.S. government to eradicate Native Americans’ culture and assimilate them into White society.”
This article is about what happened in Canada, not in the USA. It was very different here, no trail of tears, no Indian Wars, no Custer's last stand, no King Phillips War or Wounded Knee. Almeda Heavy Hair died at age 5 in 1894 and was buried at the cemetery on the Carlisle school grounds. 11 children were buried in this cemetery in this time period. The remains were returned to their tribal lands.
I didn't mention anything about children unaccounted for or buried at residential schools in my comment. Not sure where you got that from. Kimberley Murray or anyone else (families, parents, etc.) haven't been able to supply any names of children who were unaccounted for. That doesn't mean there might not be some buried children in these graveyards, but no remains from residential school children have been found at this point. I would be very much in favour of a forensic investigation of the Kamloops Apple orchard, for instance, to see if there are bodies buried there and if there are how they got there.
It’s what the article is about, dude. It’s an attempt to take the story of one bizarre incident and pretend that nothing g bad happened. Instead of jutting effort into that, why not out innit dealing with the tragedies that actually happened, for decades, in every part of the country?
The subject here is the claim that thousands of children disappeared or were clandestinely murdered at these schools. This is not to say that there were not tragedies and that nothing bad happened with European contact. We are talking about the Kimberley Murray claims of physical genocide specifically.
I know what the article is about, at least what its surface narrative is. It’s also a feint to distract from the very real and continuing issues surrounding the traumas broadcast from decades of kidnapping and abusing people’s children.
Looks like you need a good hoax. It helps you draw your rage away from having to admit that the suffering in the residential schools and decades of kidnapping and abuse was real.
Nobody has said that there was no abuse in those schools. There was, physical and sexual abuse, and people were arrested and convicted for it, some of them Indigenous staff.
I knew quite a few people who attended Kamloops Residential school, and they had mixed views. There was a hockey team, for example, and other sports teams which toured the Okanagan, which they liked, and for the girls a dance troupe, but the food wasn't the best. The discipline too was the strap for minor offences, and sounded very unfair and harsh in most cases. Boys and girls were forbidden to talk with one another at certain times, and were punished for doing that. This was in the nineteen fifties and sixties. Nobody said though that any kids disappeared.
All of them were sent there by their parents or their parents were encouraged to send them by their Chief and council. Compulsory attendance was between 1923 or so and 1947 and was never strictly enforced. I attended a public school where there were quite a few Indigenous kids. One year, only three came back to the public school.
The Chief had recommended the others go the Kamloops residential school, after a fire in the community during a summer party killed all six members of one family, including four kids. The decision was made because the band didn't want another tragedy. There were social problems and substance misuse problems on the reserve. Only the Chief's kids continued to go to the public school.
Kamloops had an Indigenous administrator after 1973 who improved conditions at that residential school. Nathan Matthew, he was a very good guy.
I don't need or look for distractions. I have MANY Indian friends and some relatives who are Indian. I love native weddings.
Every one of them say they are ashamed at how the elite Aboriginal leadership has damaged Aboriginals and moreover, they point out that most of the hardships endured on reservations were and are still a direct result of Chiefs intentionally improvershing Indians so they can access more charity from the government.
Even Aboriginals are fed up with the unaccountability of the band councils and total lack of transparency. 86% of the murdered Indigenous women were killed by Indigenous men, yet the Chiefs do nothing about it or the epidemic of alcoholism, since they don't want to kill the 'gold goose' excuse for getting billions from taxpayers.
Every one of my friends left the reservations and succeeded in life. They are disappointed that their successes have not at least attracted some interest from the Chiefs or at least provoked them to consider that maybe they need to assimilate under one law, one education system, and one cohesive society, while still preserving the old ways without extorting Canadians.
Everyone of them have NO interest whatever in going back to the 'traditional' ways of living, but are proud Indians. My sister-in-law is an off reservation Indian and she said many times that if all reserve Indians left and assimilated with the advanced western societies as she did, everyone would be so much better off. Her parents sent her to an English school precisely because the Indian-run schools administered by Indians where the teachers were Indians, were more interested in politics then in making sure the kids could meet testing standards. That's why Indian-run segregated schools turn out students that are so far behind the achievements of regular English schools.
I and everyone I know agree that there were abuses at the schools - no one is denying that, and anyone who keeps suggesting that we non-Aboriginals are denying that are troublemaking liars.
Everything has to be discussed in the context of the times. For example, corporal punishment was used at all schools in those days, not just IRS. Life in those days was extremely hard for all inhabitants of Canada, not just Indians and Metis. It was no picnic being a French student at the English school I attended as a child, at a time when corporal punishment was still acceptable. I got the strap many times. Non-aboriginal Canadians for the most part didn't have toilets or runnig water either, until the 1950s. Nobody chauffered us to school ... we walked, and dealt with the waiting bullies as best we could.
Lots of non-Aboriginal kids suffered abuse from alcohol-plagued parents, many died. There were no 'child protection agencies' then, either.
I could write volumes about the abuses of those times, and drink myself into a stupor. But I refuse to be a victim, refuse to use convenient excuses not to live my life to the fullest instead of being a burden on others.
I can say that I was one of those who fell hook, link and sinker for the Kevin Annett story, and even bought his book. Once I looked into it closely and talked to my friends and relatives mentioned above, I realized something was not smelling right about his narrative. Why were only Aboriginals being portrayed as 'victims'? How can he claim that 1/3 of 150,000 students suddenly went missing and there is no record anywhere of this?
I personally tried in about 2014 to interview Annett about his claims ... he was faster at avoiding me than an annoying fly after my sandwich.
Many anglos and french people could easily prove they were victims of the times and really hard-done by. I remember many abuses as a French student in an English elementary school in Ottawa, but I choose not to whip the world into a frenzy over it, but rather to get on with life.
If the United Nations-controlled elected Chiefs and their Band Councils are not stopped by the Aboriginals soon, Indians and Metis will be erased by the United Nations, plain and simple.
Before you attack me, ask yourself why UN shills attack and try to silence genuine Indians when they identify as their true race 'Indian', instead of using the undefined UN term 'Indigenous'?
Just as the UN worked to get children to stop identifing as their birth sex, to instead identify as all sorts of undefined genders, Indians have been duped into giving up their true identities to become 'a melting pot' of undefined individuals ...
UNDRIP will destroy the so-called First Nations for the simple reason that the UN/WEF have been working hard to end all nations. It is a ruse that the UN is interested in protecting the 'rights' of First Nations, when it is eliminating all nations and all borders in its effort to communize the entire world under one government.
If the elected Chiefs think that they will have a special place at the world govenrment table, complete with a sovereign 'Indigenous' government, once they have helped with destroying Canada, they had better have another drink.
These are anecdotal of course, because you'd asked me earlier if I knew of any kids who attended residential schools. So I responded here. A book called "My Name Is Seepeetza" which can be accessed online provides a good overview of what Kamloops residential school was like in the nineteen fifties and early sixties. There is some bad stuff in there, for sure... they took kids names away and gave them numbers and anglicized names, etc., but it is a first person account.
I knew kids who did too. It was brutal and abusive. I went to school on the same property, owned by the Anglican Church, where Shinwauk Hall is located. When they closed the school many of the kids didn’t return, and some who did went to our school and lived with local families, where they were sometimes abused again.
It’s not clear why there is such a strong movement to work so hard at trying to cast aspersions on the people trying to come to term with this. What’s with you people? Do you all have personality disorders?
Watch the, "National Advisory Committee on Residential Schools Missing Children and Unmarked Graves" webinar on You Tube called, "Best Practises and Red Flags".
About 7 minutes into the video you will hear the sad tale told by Jacquie Bouvier, a Committee member, a member of the Survivors Circle and 3rd gen. IRS Survivor. Jacquie was born in 1952 and is now in her '70's. She attended Beauval and alleges she was abused there-No details of her abuse or abusers given in the video. Her Step Father apparently worked at the school at some point. Her Mother had also attended Beauval and was married previously in an arranged marriage by the school. When she was 90, Jacquie's Mum said she wanted a family ring with all 9 of her kid's birthstones on it. This is where its gets interesting.
Apparently the ring was to also have the stones of 2 infant girls from her 1st marriage, Jacquie's step sisters, whom Jacquie never knew had existed. One died at age 6 months in 1929 and the other at 9 Months Old in 1931. Note: neither of these infants were students! Her Mother took Jacquie to the COMMUNITY cemetary near the Beauval School. Indicating to an unmarked area of the cemetary she said, " I THINK this is where the girls are buried". So, an apparently bereaved Mother of 2 baby girls didn't know where they were buried? Never kept their graves marked or tended them? Seems odd doesn't it?
After Kamloops May 27, 2021 announcement, Jacquie came forward to join the Survivors Circle. Then she approached the Advisory Committee who helped her obtaìn the death certificates for her , "2 baby sisters". Yes, records of them exist! (No cause of death is mentioned in the video).
But now a GPR search of the Beauval cemetary was initiated and Jacquie waited to hear if they found her "missing baby sisters". You can find that video on the net too. Lo and behold, the searchers announced they found 93 unmarked graves! In a graveyard of all places! 79 children and 14 infants were "found"! (Undoubtedly these included Jacquie's non student step sisters).
Oh the trauma and sorrow and the anger towards the govt and church for the loss of these "missing" kids. No one in that video mentions that GPR cannot reliably detect graves, let alone indicate the ages of children. No one mentions the possible causes of deaths, it's left to one's imagination, hence the sorrow, trauma and anger. Even Kisha Supernant in the Advisory Committee video states exhumation is necessary and a full forensic examination is needed if the COMMUNITY wishes to proceed that far. Another presenter Emily Holland states about 1 hour into that video that, "Even if you exhume a GPR "hit" and find nothing, ITS NOT OVER! We have the oral testimonies of survivors as the Truth", suggesting searches should continue despite no evidence being found.
How many of these now unmarked graves are actually graves? How many contain children or infants remains? How many are non students, natives or non natives alike-its a COMMUNITY cemetary after all? How many are actually "missing" and were they murdered or did they die of natural causes ( as I assume Jacquie's sisters had died)? Why are taxpayers being forced to pay to find graves that may not belong to a native or a res school student, something which should be a family responsibility?
One more thing from the video-Emily Holland states, "if community searchers find bones that are older than say 500 years old and couldn't possibly be IRS students, don't tell anyone or leak it to the media. It will only increase "denialism". I guess that would be worse than finding nothing after excavating a GPR hit, but hey, they would still have their "Truth".
Thanks for this, Bill. I watched a similar video from an earlier NAC gathering that included Jacquie Bouvier’s story. You provide some interesting details that I didn’t have, so I thought you might like to see my own notes on this woman’s 2023 testimony, wherein I comment on the level of emotionalism, and how Jacquie attributes those infant deaths – and even her own present-day need for joint replacements! – to the residential school. In my notes I gave her a pseudonym in case I decided to share the story (though I haven’t until today). My summary is longish, as her talk ran about 15 minutes, but gives some additional context that may be of interest to some readers; apologies for the repetitive parts. Note that at the time of this telling, Jacquie obviously didn't yet have the death certificates for her "baby sisters" and reports them as dying at 8 months and 11 months of age, which must have been from her mother's (inaccurate) recollection. From my unedited notes:
<< A woman in her 70s (I’ll call her Jane) told her story, and her mother’s, as part of a survivors’ panel at one of Kimberly Murray’s National Gatherings in 2023. Jane starts by saying that her Dene mother went to Beauval Residential School right through grade nine and, because she was an orphan, “never went home.” After grade nine she had stayed on at Beauval as a seamstress, and the school arranged her marriage to a Metis man. One of this woman’s infant daughters died at 8 months, and another at 11 months (though a son in between those two lived to adulthood), and they’re buried in the school cemetery. Jane refers to her mother’s two infant daughters as “my baby sisters” and believes they died because her mother hadn’t had good enough nutrition while living at the school [this might well have been the case wherever she was raised, because this was in the 1930s].
Jane weeps and struggles to compose herself when speaking of those “baby sisters,” even though they had died two decades before Jane herself was born. Perhaps she was channeling her mother’s grief, but the level of emotionalism (and the standing ovation Jane got from the audience for telling her sad story) definitely seemed overblown given that she was speaking about two infants who died nearly a century ago from illness or a failure to thrive.
The infants’ Metis father (Desrocher) “died at a young age, of TB.” After his death, Jane’s mother had four more children while unmarried, before marrying Jane’s father Isadore Bouvier, who worked for Beauval Residential School. Jane’s father died when she was a girl. One older sister was taken to an orphanage (because Jane’s mother wasn’t married at that point and couldn’t care for her) and an older brother was scooped and ended up in the US. Jane only managed to find and meet him in the early 2000s, after her mom had died in 1999 [note that despite her hard life and many tragedies, Jane’s mom lived to the age of 92]. One brother was deaf and went to a school for the deaf. He worked all his life and committed suicide after retirement when in his 70s. Jane believes his suicide was due to the trauma he suffered in the school for the deaf.
Jane says she herself “was a very angry woman” and “went into” alcoholism because of abuse she suffered in her own 6 years in Beauval. “LIKE EVERYONE ELSE,” she says, she “was abused physically, mentally, emotionally, and spiritually.” She gives no specifics whatsoever, allowing the listener to imagine the worst. Jane wasn’t able to have children, but she adopted her teenage niece’s baby, so now has a 42-year-old son and the two appear to be very close (judging by Facebook posts and photos). She lives in a condo in a Vancouver high-rise, travels frequently for pleasure and activism, and sports fashionable clothes and brightly dyed coiffures.
Jane is 72 and has had two hip replacements. She’s been told she also needs knee replacements, but says she doesn’t plan to get her knees done. This (the need for joint replacements) was caused by the physical abuse at the residential school, Jane says. >>
Link to 2023 gathering video (Jacquie starts at 4:34:07 in the 6-hr video): https://fb.watch/wJorIvHZr9/ OR: https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?ref=watch_permalink&v=839681241143793 (one may take you to the exact spot)
Nina says, “Forester's article also omits important information about Annett's own notorious 2011 GPR search …”
Brett Forester isn’t the only one who has omitted mention of Annett’s meddling at the Mohawk Institute. Kimberly Murray herself has been conspicuously silent on anything to do with Kevin Annett, even though as Nina points out, Murray and others in the TRC were clearly influenced by the background noise he’d created. In fact, CBC as a NETWORK has barely mentioned Annett’s name in the two+ decades he’s been causing mischief. Why? Because his obvious lunacy would taint the credibility of the orthodox IRS narrative.
What does it say that in the four volumes of her final report – nearly 2000 pages – Kimberly Murray doesn’t even MENTION Kevin Annett or reference his 2011 ‘work’ at the Mohawk Institute? Of course she’d never want to be associated with him, a crackpot repudiated by the Mohawks and every other First Nation in the country. And OF COURSE she’d never want to acknowledge the influence he’s had on people’s perceptions of residential schools.
But he IS a part of the story of the ostensibly ‘disappeared’ children, and it’s plainly dishonest for Murray and her collaborators to have left him completely out of the picture. In a $10-million-dollar “study” he SHOULD have been mentioned, and his theories and actions unequivocally denounced.
It's not hard to see why Kimberly Murray wouldn’t want to pronounce on the rantings of Kevin Annett, pro OR con. To her mind, it’s safest just to “disappear” Annett from the public consciousness. He makes her and her collaborators look like they, too, could be lying in service of an agenda.
Kevin Annett has become the poster boy for the biggest fraud in Canada to date. Regrettably, the worst has yet to come. As Trudeau shuffles his cabinet rumor has it that Kevin Annett will be asked to replace MP Gary Anandasangaree as the next Minister of Crown Indigenous Relations. When asked to comment, Trudeau replied, "he is the most knowledgeable individual in Canada regarding the tragic indigenous genocide and besides, his name is much easier to pronounce than, buddy what's name".
Are these the shadows of things that *will* be, or are they the shadows of things that *may* be only? Scrooge, A Christmas Carol.
Given Forester's X profile, it's no wonder he's seized on Annett's conspiracy theories. It's unlikely there would ever be a balanced reporting from Forester. Sadly, the largely unsuspecting and naive public, trusting as it does in the CBC (and even more reason for it to be defunded when it's perpetrating these lies), will believe this.
It is a crime of the occult to wage this. Like the drag last supper at the Olympics. Like transgender day of... on Easter. If you research crimes of the occult, they need to go after Christianity. Christians sit in defiance of ALL the anti-population RIGHTS they need so badly. So we are a target for steady strength.
Euthanasia. Nope we don't like that. The unemployed vets when no meat goes through have a job continuity. (No meat.. no large animal vets, nothing to feed cats..no small animal vets)
Sterilization, removing healthy body parts to Eliminate sexual function. Very horrific if done by guy in van in seventies. Normal if sent off for this by teacher in pink hair claiming the syrup word affirming.
Abortion. Taking from the sacred. If humans can sell the human organs of the human dismembered alive, to other humans for profit, then hint....it's human and barbaric.
All these Christians oppose. 112 churches burn.
It is useful to create hate against Christians.
Useful too to dismantle the state to impose global government.
So many layers to how perfect this libel is. But the government, yes the government HAS systematically harmed first nations. The reserves, the two status, the two standards. The division. Well now we are back at luciferians. Division is their favorite play to obtain and increase power. They want us each to resent the other.
I do hope real healing and actual truth gets out.
None of this will stop until the money train is emptied. One thing is clear, we are slowly learning who profited from harming innocent Canadians.
The link between Annett's conspiracy theories and Kimberly Murray's report and statements are made clear in this article. It seems correct that her conclusions were influenced by his writings. Thanks for publishing this.
Wake up…
“Bone by bone, two archaeologists lifted the 130-year-old skeletal remains of a Native American girl from the shallow grave in a roadside cemetery. A hand bone, a rib, a chunk of vertebrae and, finally, her skull.
Almeda Heavy Hair had been forcibly removed from her family and the Gros Ventre tribe when she was 12 and sent to the Carlisle Indian Industrial School in Pennsylvania, one of hundreds of institutions operated by the U.S. government to eradicate Native Americans’ culture and assimilate them into White society.”
This article is about what happened in Canada, not in the USA. It was very different here, no trail of tears, no Indian Wars, no Custer's last stand, no King Phillips War or Wounded Knee. Almeda Heavy Hair died at age 5 in 1894 and was buried at the cemetery on the Carlisle school grounds. 11 children were buried in this cemetery in this time period. The remains were returned to their tribal lands.
“No trail of tears”? That’s not what they’re trying to tell us.
Who is they? The Trail of Tears was a particular tragic and documented historical event in the USA.
Yes…one that has a name. Do you genuinely believe that Canada is free of such tragedies? How many Indigenous people have you asked?
You seem very sure that there are no children unaccounted for buried at residential schools. What makes you that confident?
I didn't mention anything about children unaccounted for or buried at residential schools in my comment. Not sure where you got that from. Kimberley Murray or anyone else (families, parents, etc.) haven't been able to supply any names of children who were unaccounted for. That doesn't mean there might not be some buried children in these graveyards, but no remains from residential school children have been found at this point. I would be very much in favour of a forensic investigation of the Kamloops Apple orchard, for instance, to see if there are bodies buried there and if there are how they got there.
It’s what the article is about, dude. It’s an attempt to take the story of one bizarre incident and pretend that nothing g bad happened. Instead of jutting effort into that, why not out innit dealing with the tragedies that actually happened, for decades, in every part of the country?
The subject here is the claim that thousands of children disappeared or were clandestinely murdered at these schools. This is not to say that there were not tragedies and that nothing bad happened with European contact. We are talking about the Kimberley Murray claims of physical genocide specifically.
I know what the article is about, at least what its surface narrative is. It’s also a feint to distract from the very real and continuing issues surrounding the traumas broadcast from decades of kidnapping and abusing people’s children.
Let's not conflate American Indian politics with Canadian Aboriginal hoaxes.
Looks like you need a good hoax. It helps you draw your rage away from having to admit that the suffering in the residential schools and decades of kidnapping and abuse was real.
Nobody has said that there was no abuse in those schools. There was, physical and sexual abuse, and people were arrested and convicted for it, some of them Indigenous staff.
I knew quite a few people who attended Kamloops Residential school, and they had mixed views. There was a hockey team, for example, and other sports teams which toured the Okanagan, which they liked, and for the girls a dance troupe, but the food wasn't the best. The discipline too was the strap for minor offences, and sounded very unfair and harsh in most cases. Boys and girls were forbidden to talk with one another at certain times, and were punished for doing that. This was in the nineteen fifties and sixties. Nobody said though that any kids disappeared.
All of them were sent there by their parents or their parents were encouraged to send them by their Chief and council. Compulsory attendance was between 1923 or so and 1947 and was never strictly enforced. I attended a public school where there were quite a few Indigenous kids. One year, only three came back to the public school.
The Chief had recommended the others go the Kamloops residential school, after a fire in the community during a summer party killed all six members of one family, including four kids. The decision was made because the band didn't want another tragedy. There were social problems and substance misuse problems on the reserve. Only the Chief's kids continued to go to the public school.
Kamloops had an Indigenous administrator after 1973 who improved conditions at that residential school. Nathan Matthew, he was a very good guy.
I don't need or look for distractions. I have MANY Indian friends and some relatives who are Indian. I love native weddings.
Every one of them say they are ashamed at how the elite Aboriginal leadership has damaged Aboriginals and moreover, they point out that most of the hardships endured on reservations were and are still a direct result of Chiefs intentionally improvershing Indians so they can access more charity from the government.
Even Aboriginals are fed up with the unaccountability of the band councils and total lack of transparency. 86% of the murdered Indigenous women were killed by Indigenous men, yet the Chiefs do nothing about it or the epidemic of alcoholism, since they don't want to kill the 'gold goose' excuse for getting billions from taxpayers.
Every one of my friends left the reservations and succeeded in life. They are disappointed that their successes have not at least attracted some interest from the Chiefs or at least provoked them to consider that maybe they need to assimilate under one law, one education system, and one cohesive society, while still preserving the old ways without extorting Canadians.
Everyone of them have NO interest whatever in going back to the 'traditional' ways of living, but are proud Indians. My sister-in-law is an off reservation Indian and she said many times that if all reserve Indians left and assimilated with the advanced western societies as she did, everyone would be so much better off. Her parents sent her to an English school precisely because the Indian-run schools administered by Indians where the teachers were Indians, were more interested in politics then in making sure the kids could meet testing standards. That's why Indian-run segregated schools turn out students that are so far behind the achievements of regular English schools.
I and everyone I know agree that there were abuses at the schools - no one is denying that, and anyone who keeps suggesting that we non-Aboriginals are denying that are troublemaking liars.
Everything has to be discussed in the context of the times. For example, corporal punishment was used at all schools in those days, not just IRS. Life in those days was extremely hard for all inhabitants of Canada, not just Indians and Metis. It was no picnic being a French student at the English school I attended as a child, at a time when corporal punishment was still acceptable. I got the strap many times. Non-aboriginal Canadians for the most part didn't have toilets or runnig water either, until the 1950s. Nobody chauffered us to school ... we walked, and dealt with the waiting bullies as best we could.
Lots of non-Aboriginal kids suffered abuse from alcohol-plagued parents, many died. There were no 'child protection agencies' then, either.
I could write volumes about the abuses of those times, and drink myself into a stupor. But I refuse to be a victim, refuse to use convenient excuses not to live my life to the fullest instead of being a burden on others.
I can say that I was one of those who fell hook, link and sinker for the Kevin Annett story, and even bought his book. Once I looked into it closely and talked to my friends and relatives mentioned above, I realized something was not smelling right about his narrative. Why were only Aboriginals being portrayed as 'victims'? How can he claim that 1/3 of 150,000 students suddenly went missing and there is no record anywhere of this?
I personally tried in about 2014 to interview Annett about his claims ... he was faster at avoiding me than an annoying fly after my sandwich.
Many anglos and french people could easily prove they were victims of the times and really hard-done by. I remember many abuses as a French student in an English elementary school in Ottawa, but I choose not to whip the world into a frenzy over it, but rather to get on with life.
If the United Nations-controlled elected Chiefs and their Band Councils are not stopped by the Aboriginals soon, Indians and Metis will be erased by the United Nations, plain and simple.
Before you attack me, ask yourself why UN shills attack and try to silence genuine Indians when they identify as their true race 'Indian', instead of using the undefined UN term 'Indigenous'?
Just as the UN worked to get children to stop identifing as their birth sex, to instead identify as all sorts of undefined genders, Indians have been duped into giving up their true identities to become 'a melting pot' of undefined individuals ...
UNDRIP will destroy the so-called First Nations for the simple reason that the UN/WEF have been working hard to end all nations. It is a ruse that the UN is interested in protecting the 'rights' of First Nations, when it is eliminating all nations and all borders in its effort to communize the entire world under one government.
If the elected Chiefs think that they will have a special place at the world govenrment table, complete with a sovereign 'Indigenous' government, once they have helped with destroying Canada, they had better have another drink.
You seem desperate to make it all sound OK and normal. There was nothing about it that was OK. Not for decades.
Did you attend a residential school?
Why are you wanting to make it about me?
Prove your claims.
These are anecdotal of course, because you'd asked me earlier if I knew of any kids who attended residential schools. So I responded here. A book called "My Name Is Seepeetza" which can be accessed online provides a good overview of what Kamloops residential school was like in the nineteen fifties and early sixties. There is some bad stuff in there, for sure... they took kids names away and gave them numbers and anglicized names, etc., but it is a first person account.
I knew kids who did too. It was brutal and abusive. I went to school on the same property, owned by the Anglican Church, where Shinwauk Hall is located. When they closed the school many of the kids didn’t return, and some who did went to our school and lived with local families, where they were sometimes abused again.
It’s not clear why there is such a strong movement to work so hard at trying to cast aspersions on the people trying to come to term with this. What’s with you people? Do you all have personality disorders?
Then why are you going out of your way to gaslight it?