Governments are desperate to raise the profile of indigenous people, which is a political act. Assigning scientific powers to people who had precious little science is pandering to a pathetic extent. Native people didn’t have the wheel, numeracy, literacy, metallurgy, concrete, or gunpowder. Are governments trying to embarrass them?
They never seem embarrassed though. There is some kind of I've heard it called indigenous exceptionalism thing at work. I've listened to enough court testimony to figure out that the western perspective in science, law, morality, et cetera, isn't held to much account by indigenous folks. Especially now that Canadians have self-applied the "settler" epithet.
I think it's a minority of indigenous folks and their politically motivated supporters who follow these religious based ideas. It's an elitist university based concept. For example, many Wetsuwetsen work on the coastal gas pipeline and make a good living, but the news usually features the dozen or so members and their supporters who spend their time in protests and confrontations with police and company workers.
I think the philosophical concepts are interesting, and might be a useful perspective, similar to Christian based concepts of being kind to people, etc.... for example, the Catholics ran hospitals.... but the concepts do sound a lot like New Age ideas from the nineteen-eighties, and really not applicable to modern physics, medicine, etc.
When the Ottomans started to close in on the last enclaves of the Byzantine Empire, large numbers of Greek scholars, mainly from Constantinople, fled to Western Europe, immeasurably enriching its scholarship in ways that material assisted the Renaissance.
Constantinople became an intellectual backwater, for Islam was closing its intellectual gates just as Europe was opening its.
The fates of Galileo and the Ottoman astronomer Taqi al-Din are indicative of the trend. Despite opposition by the church, the former got intellectual traction and the latter didn't, with his observatory pulled down 11 years after it was built.
We are moving into a decadent late modern period burdened with the same kind of dogmatic received truths of traditional and secular religious fundamentalism that crippled science and intellectual enquiry outside Europe as the western driven modern era unfurled itself......
Can anyone else see how ‘useful’ this is for the UN land/resource grab strategy? Playing straight into SDG. In the same way that Traditional Morality had to be broken (revolutionized) for the acceptance & virtue signalling of enriching the Education-Pharma-Medical Complex (Gender Clinics & Services etc) - traditional epistemology, Scientific Method, must become revolutionized in order to pursue aims of re-zoning, re-wilding, removing farmers from productive arable & grazing land, restricting/controlling land use in the name of ‘Stewardship’ for ‘the whole earth’ rather than ensuring National Food & Energy security. The assault (as Michael points out) is epistemological. As ever, to serve policy & public perception - Conceit indeed, for control. Great article - shared, thank you.
Good article. I looked on the internet and this indigenous science idea is mostly referred to as "Two Eyed Seeing" and it's really vague. The B. C. Medical journal featured an article on it in its October 2021 edition. Among the specific concepts were a recommendation to feature tobacco as a "sacred medicine," and ensuring "sacred knowledge" remains protected when doing medical research, whatever that means. One indigenous person I know thinks it's all mumbo-jumbo, but he's afraid to say anything, fearing he'll be called an "apple," (red on the outside and white on the inside) at the least, and be shunned at the worst. There's pressure on indigenous people to accept these beliefs, because as the article says, there's a perception they are "innate" to indigenous people. At a recent conference I attended, one indigenous speaker stated "Your colonialist ways do not work for us." Besides the hubris of believing he was speaking for all indigenous people, he was using an electronic microphone. I wanted to shout out "That sound system is working for you." I think a lot of people might have appreciated some humour. This is all too serious a topic, though, when the B. C. Medical association features it.
Governments are desperate to raise the profile of indigenous people, which is a political act. Assigning scientific powers to people who had precious little science is pandering to a pathetic extent. Native people didn’t have the wheel, numeracy, literacy, metallurgy, concrete, or gunpowder. Are governments trying to embarrass them?
They never seem embarrassed though. There is some kind of I've heard it called indigenous exceptionalism thing at work. I've listened to enough court testimony to figure out that the western perspective in science, law, morality, et cetera, isn't held to much account by indigenous folks. Especially now that Canadians have self-applied the "settler" epithet.
I think it's a minority of indigenous folks and their politically motivated supporters who follow these religious based ideas. It's an elitist university based concept. For example, many Wetsuwetsen work on the coastal gas pipeline and make a good living, but the news usually features the dozen or so members and their supporters who spend their time in protests and confrontations with police and company workers.
Dangerous bilge. There is one scientific method and one science.
I think the philosophical concepts are interesting, and might be a useful perspective, similar to Christian based concepts of being kind to people, etc.... for example, the Catholics ran hospitals.... but the concepts do sound a lot like New Age ideas from the nineteen-eighties, and really not applicable to modern physics, medicine, etc.
When the Ottomans started to close in on the last enclaves of the Byzantine Empire, large numbers of Greek scholars, mainly from Constantinople, fled to Western Europe, immeasurably enriching its scholarship in ways that material assisted the Renaissance.
Constantinople became an intellectual backwater, for Islam was closing its intellectual gates just as Europe was opening its.
The fates of Galileo and the Ottoman astronomer Taqi al-Din are indicative of the trend. Despite opposition by the church, the former got intellectual traction and the latter didn't, with his observatory pulled down 11 years after it was built.
We are moving into a decadent late modern period burdened with the same kind of dogmatic received truths of traditional and secular religious fundamentalism that crippled science and intellectual enquiry outside Europe as the western driven modern era unfurled itself......
Can anyone else see how ‘useful’ this is for the UN land/resource grab strategy? Playing straight into SDG. In the same way that Traditional Morality had to be broken (revolutionized) for the acceptance & virtue signalling of enriching the Education-Pharma-Medical Complex (Gender Clinics & Services etc) - traditional epistemology, Scientific Method, must become revolutionized in order to pursue aims of re-zoning, re-wilding, removing farmers from productive arable & grazing land, restricting/controlling land use in the name of ‘Stewardship’ for ‘the whole earth’ rather than ensuring National Food & Energy security. The assault (as Michael points out) is epistemological. As ever, to serve policy & public perception - Conceit indeed, for control. Great article - shared, thank you.
True and should be obvious...
Good article. I looked on the internet and this indigenous science idea is mostly referred to as "Two Eyed Seeing" and it's really vague. The B. C. Medical journal featured an article on it in its October 2021 edition. Among the specific concepts were a recommendation to feature tobacco as a "sacred medicine," and ensuring "sacred knowledge" remains protected when doing medical research, whatever that means. One indigenous person I know thinks it's all mumbo-jumbo, but he's afraid to say anything, fearing he'll be called an "apple," (red on the outside and white on the inside) at the least, and be shunned at the worst. There's pressure on indigenous people to accept these beliefs, because as the article says, there's a perception they are "innate" to indigenous people. At a recent conference I attended, one indigenous speaker stated "Your colonialist ways do not work for us." Besides the hubris of believing he was speaking for all indigenous people, he was using an electronic microphone. I wanted to shout out "That sound system is working for you." I think a lot of people might have appreciated some humour. This is all too serious a topic, though, when the B. C. Medical association features it.